conversation is an engine

A lot can happen in a conversation

Posts Tagged ‘dialogue

Where Does Insight Come From?

with 2 comments

How do I discombobulate without getting fired—or hired?

Over at the Philosopher’s Playground, Steven Gimbel wrote recently of his need to discombobulate his students (with their “naively smug beliefs which they’ve never thought very hard about.”) to help them begin the work of philosophy.  I wonder if the act of getting discombobulated is the beginning point for producing any insight.

A few days back I had coffee with a friend who is a human resources executive and coach and thoughtful person. We were talking about what makes an organization dialogical, that is, willing to enter into conversation internally (versus the usual barking of orders from one management level to the next). Carol, as it turns out, had a keen interest in how dialogue works and was able to identify four stages in a verbal exchange required to produce insight:

  1. Awareness of a problem or issue
  2. Trigger: something in the exchange triggers a reflective moment. Insight often falls from the reflection
  3. Insight: the Aha moment, when suddenly I understand something previously opaque to me
  4. Action: Do something with an insight or it is gone. Write it down. Tell someone. Do anything.

Gimbel’s discombobulation seems to help with the awareness phase. We need to understand how what we thought certain or easy is neither certain nor easy. Sometimes I use a classroom exercise to help create the trigger/reflection step for my students. But just as often, in ordinary conversation, my discombobulation finds relief when my friend asks a question and I lapse into momentary reflection which often leads to an insight. Sometimes I feel like an “Aha” addict: there’s nothing like suddenly realizing a new truth—nothing like that “click” when a critical piece of how life works suddenly falls into place. That’s a big part of why I write.

Perhaps the key to those four stages is the action part. We need to do something with an insight. Right then at the very Aha moment. Otherwise it’s lost.

But corporate conversations routinely detour around discombobulation. It’s partly a time issue but mostly the politics of a department: a boss or manager or VP rarely seeks out discombobulation, especially from subordinates.  The person in charge would much rather pay a high-priced ad agency or consulting group to come in and discombobulate them. I’ve been on both sides of a number of those meetings.

I’ve been trying to help my students become active discombobulaters in their workplaces: from wherever they land, my hope is they ask the impertinent questions that poke through the malarkey and point out deviation from mission.

###

Written by kirkistan

December 22, 2010 at 8:10 am

Who Cares What You Think?

leave a comment »

Hearing from your non-target audience is critical to moving forward

I look forward to chatting with a friend and HR executive about how or if her organization encourages dialogue internally. It’s going to be a tricky conversation and I’m not at all sure I can verbally explain what I mean.

What's out there?

Dodgy Questions

I’m working backward from the notion that target audiences and publics are no longer willing to suffer monologues, sermons and sales pitches from companies trying to get their dollars. As I talk with clients and friends, I realize the unwillingness to engage in dialogue with their target audiences actually comes from a deep place of control that leaders want to maintain. Dialogue looks like brazen and reckless openness that offers little or no payback: sort of a personal, self-inflicted Wikileak that will most certainly sink the ship.

In a sense they are right: telling what we know and offering it in exchange for discussion and relationship does seem like giving away the store. But it isn’t exactly that and it will become less like that over time. Dialogue today is more a recognition that the audience that once packed your lecture hall is now making its way to the stage, each with their own microphone and their own index card of questions.

The willingness to engage in dialogue is much, much more than turning on another marketing channel or sprucing up a communication strategy. It is a deep-seated willingness that runs counter to the way many of our businesses are organized.

Talking to the Other

I’ve been tracing the notion of the Other back through Derrida to Levinas and Hegel. I’m trying to understand exactly what is at stake when we open ourselves to true engagement with another person. In particular, engagement with people outside my demographic, outside my target audience, outside my belief set. What are they talking about and how have I excluded them and what have I missed through my exclusions?

I’m eager to know what a company that opens itself in this way looks like: who are they internally? How do they talk with each other in a way that allows them to be open to talking with others?

So—this conversation. Are you interested ?

###

Written by kirkistan

December 8, 2010 at 10:14 am

Listen Up: #2 in the Dummy’s Guide to Conversation

with 3 comments

The problem with listening is the other people who keep talking

You’ve opened your pie hole and made like a human: shaping experience into words that can be understood by the humans around you (though it’s still a bit fuzzy how anyone understands anything). You anticipate being stopped dead in your tracks with realization or wonder, right in the middle of a conversation.

But there’s a step to bridge the two: you’ve got to listen.

The traditional problem with listening is other people: they keep talking. When they are talking, you are not at the center and they keep uttering words that don’t refer to you. For instance: they rarely mention your name, which you keenly listen for. They keep talking about their own experience. Why, oh why, don’t they stop talking and ask me about me?

Let me introduce you to three friends who knew something about listening: Mortimer Adler, Alain de Botton and Jesus the Christ. I met Mortimer Adler when I read his book, “How to Read a Book.” Why read a book on how to read a book? Because of the author’s crazy fascination with understanding. He didn’t just read, he annotated, he outlined and he synthesized. He labored over passages in long conversations with the authors. Plus, he made it sound like fun (which it is!). Of course, there is not enough time to do that with every book, so Adler picked what he called the “Great Books.” His Great Books program has gone in and out of style over years, depending on your politics and your conclusions about who qualifies as worth reading.

Alain de Botton writes readable books that satisfy his curiosity and pull his readers into the vortex of questions he counts as friends. If you’ve ever wondered how electricity gets to your house or what is the process behind producing biscuits (that is, cookies) or why Proust is worth reading or why Nietzsche was not a happy-go-lucky guy, de Botton is the author you want.

Jesus the Christ knew something about listening, despite being both God and man. His human condition opened a limiting opportunity which in turn caused him to steal away for hours to converse with the God of the universe. I go into depth on this in Listentalk. But the point is that prayer, which is ultimately more about listening than talking, was a preoccupation of the man who was God.

Listening opens us to hearing—which sounds like “duh” except for when you examine your own listening practices and realize how often you are thinking of something else entirely when your spouse/child/boss/friend/neighbor appears to be talking. But to really hear, to be crazy to understand, to be curious and to be committed to connection opens us to the place where we can be stopped dead in our tracks.

###

Listentalk Chapter 7 Synopsis: Where to Listentalk in this World?

leave a comment »

A simple conversation can turn more powerful than we could ever imagine.

Waking to a potent exchange, we understand intrinsically that much more than words are passing. We also exchange something of our identity. Rejuvenating, reforming and re-establishing, the power of a conversation starts to look like a useful tool. Useful, if slightly unpredictable because we converse with people, never objects. And people can choose to listen. Or not.

How to use this conversation-tool intentionally in the world?

Some people courageously allow themselves to be pulled forward into widening circles of conversation, starting from their own dialogical communities: family and faith communities, work communities, learning communities, social communities. But the opportunity for engaging in conversation grows: search-capabilities alone open new doors for intimate connection across the globe. With this widening opportunity comes a strategic question: who do I engage with in this world of opportunity and how will social media help? This chapter suggests responsibilities surround and invite our engagement—there are certain places and situations where listentalk must proceed forward. One is where voices are silenced. Those nations, organizations and situations where dissent is crushed and people (of faith and otherwise) are jailed, tortured and murdered. Listentalk can hear the voice of the voiceless and amplify the cry of the helpless. In response to the God who gave us voices, we must speak. In education, where students are provided with knowledge, life-skills and trained to make a difference. Simple conversation is and must grow more into a concomitant discipline in philosophy, English, engineering, in business. Business is ripe and already beginning to flower with the fruit of listentalk (maybe it is as much generational as it is thoughtful strategy), but all disciplines benefit from intentional openness. Finally, the church is the people among who listentalk should flourish. The church with its focus on hearing from God’s word and from the conversations that have surrounded this hearing for centuries. The church with its epic mission. The people committed to formation must themselves form in a way that honors God’s pattern. And perhaps the community of faith has the most at stake with dialogue: the mission is nothing less than drawing others into response to and relationship with God, which the apostle Paul wrote about persuasively in 2 Corinthians 5.

###

Written by kirkistan

November 25, 2010 at 9:52 am

Listentalk Chapter 6 Synopsis: How to Talk

leave a comment »

Given that conversation is a primary tool for developing relationship, why do so many of us insist on using conversation only to persuade, protect and inform? Maybe talking can have a much bigger role in how we learn. And maybe our talk can be impetus for community formation—but how to begin?

This chapter shows how to feed individuals and groups with words that make sense and move others forward. The chapter shows how creativity is a welcome element to conversation and how it also helps people progress. And the chapter also shows how being fully present with each other helps us make mad chatter with the most delightful effect. Plus—we pull from the attitudes and practices of prayer as a model for free, unencumbered talk that will be effective with each other.

###

Written by kirkistan

November 24, 2010 at 7:46 am

Listentalk Chapter 4 Synopsis: Extreme Listening

leave a comment »

Extreme listening adds intent to our ordinary encounters: purposeful and expectant waiting, watching and hearing for life-altering content. But is that too big a burden for everyday conversation? Perhaps conversation was made both for casual and in-depth need: flexing the moment interest turns hot for the true seeker? Extreme listening helps us sort our multitude of messages with keen observation and pointed hunger. We sort for what we need based on a clarifying sense of who we are and where we’re going.

Mortimer Adler and Alain de Botton exhibit habits of extreme listening, as is clear from the results of their work. Jesus the Christ spent considerable time in conversation with the God of the Universe, as much more than a disinterested conversation partner—He was intent on hearing because of so much that was required of Him.

Today pockets of extreme listening are motivated by strategic intent to serve communities, clients or shareholders, to grow customers, to capture potential buyers right at their point of decision. The chapter suggests listening-rhetoric as the engine behind our communication and also points out attitudes that support extreme listening.

###

Written by kirkistan

November 22, 2010 at 6:51 am

Listentalk Chapter 3 Synopsis: Building Communities with Words

leave a comment »

Words Can Accomplish Stuff Among Us

We spend ourselves in word-formation without giving it a second thought. Producing and delivering words is our daily task. Words are the currency of our social capital, and we cash them in on paper, orally and electronically. And yet even as we spend our words to persuade or motivate someone to action or even command (perhaps depending on the context of hierarchy to provide the whip missing from our voice), we sometimes bank up even more social capital. Words are the giving that keeps giving—sometimes for good. Sometimes for ill.

Our words can be deposits in a community-wide bank as we annotate a context that helps a group self-identify, clarify tasks and purposes and simply move forward. Our words can pinpoint the human condition in a way that names a common problem or promise and so frees others to tackle it. Our words often fly out in camouflage simply because they blend in so well with all the other words flying through the air.

The opportunity to let our words fly is changing on a monumental scale because of technology and because of new attitudes of who, what and how to hear from each other. The opportunity has opened a wide new vista for forming community. But this is no time to hold back. No. It is time to jump in.

###

Written by kirkistan

November 21, 2010 at 7:48 am

My Raw Argument for Conversation

with 3 comments

The Practice of Dialogue Rests on Solid Ground

I’ve become intrigued by trying to boil Listentalk down to the most elemental forms. Intrigued because there is a firm foundation for which I can build things on. Here’s what I know so far:

you really should

  1. There is a performative aspect of language. This performative aspect allows language to actually do something out in the world, to make things happen. It is not just that speaking something makes it true. But there is something closely related that is less about true/false and more about perception/reality: when we speak something, it becomes public, it becomes known, it becomes the story we’re going with—unless immediately debunked by those involved in the hearing and telling. So…stuff happens when we speak it. It becomes true…or at least truish. JL Austin, John Searle and others go on and on about such speech acts. I intend to hear more from them.
  2. We do right by others when we treat them as people. Obvious? Yes and no. Martin Buber suggested we often treat each other as objects rather than as people. He talks about “I-Thou” relationships where we treat the person before us as fully-human, whole people. Beings with many facets, interests, parts of their character. We talk and (especially) listen to them as we respect the dignity of their being human. But too often we treat others with an “I-It” sort of connection. That is, the kind of connection we have with an object too often becomes the model for the way we connect with people. We use a hammer to pound a nail, a George Foreman Grill to press a Panini for lunch. It makes sense to use tools in that way. But we mustn’t treat people as if they were objects. We devalue them. People are people. People are not objects placed on earth for the sole purpose of carrying out my personal (sometimes diabolical) will. There’s much more to say about this (in particular from Emmanuel Levinas), but that is the basic argument.
  3. God created and interacts with people. Lest you think I’m writing some humanistic diatribe, both the performative nature of language and the treatment of people as beings of dignity flow directly from the Old and New Testaments. Look at the role of “Word” from Genesis 1 to John 1 to Revelation 22. Words are performative so often it will make your head spin (If your head is subject to spinning) (You might want a doctor to look at that). Watch how the Eternal One allowed for the possibility that words spoken could be rejected. Even the words of the Creator. Even the Word that was a person as well as God.
  4. We’re at a new time when gatekeepers no longer control the discourse. Social media is part of the deal, but not the whole deal. New attitudes about who is in authority, who we can trust and who we cannot trust are in operation. Technology is opening doors.

Those are “Listentalk’s” four building blocks.

What did I miss?

###

Tale of a Communication Fail that Lost a Sale

with 2 comments

We stood looking at the broken window. I wanted an estimate. But the window salesman was unspooling a monologue about the wood in windows these days: something about 80-year old trees, then 50-year old trees and 35-year old trees. Then came sealant rates, the attributes of vinyl, why his company of craftsman were utterly dependable and more than just sales guys, and then another round of features so precise and minute I would need to plot them on a spreadsheet to begin to understand them. Most of what he said was entirely unverifiable—especially at the rate he was spewing it out.

The sales pitch is dead. Long live dialogue!

The sales pitch is dead. Long live dialogue!

I suddenly realized it’s been some time since I’ve heard one of these old-school sales pitches. And I remembered why: I hate listening to sales pitches. I’ve been writing about the switch from monologue to dialogue so much that perhaps I had convinced myself the sales pitch was dead.

Not so.

For all the reasons I’ve been writing about, from lack of curiosity to the absence of questions to simple lack of insight into his audience, his sales pitch did not address my central question: Will you give me an estimate on replacing this window and, even more, can I trust you to do the job effectively?

It’s too bad, really. I used body language to say “I’m not interested” and “I don’t believe a word you are saying.” And two or three times directed him to the question of the estimate, even so, the pitch soon came tumbling out again at full speed. I despaired of getting back to work. He seemed to not get that the pitch was not working, nor that it was affecting me negatively. Maybe he didn’t care. He clearly seemed to not care that I didn’t care.

Even Mrs. Kirkistan, in later conversations with the window pitchman, found herself attempting to cut through the monologue to force an estimate. In fact, long before the actual estimate came, we decided we could not trust this guy or his company.

Two things about the pitchman and his monologue:

  • Dialogue is a way of establishing trust. It proves someone is listening. By way of contrast, monologue proves someone is not listening. Do I really want to work with someone who is not listening?
  • Feature-laden promises delivered at a rate that makes them unverifiable (even if we cared, which we didn’t) have “scam” written all over them. Maybe the pitchman and his company were legit. His monologue led me directly away from that conclusion.

 Dialogue helps disperse skepticism.

 ###

Written by kirkistan

October 9, 2009 at 2:31 pm